From Beirut to Bosnia - PART 1 - The Martyr's Smile - by Robert Fisk - 50:35 - Sep 18, 2007

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"Why have so many Muslims come to hate the West? In this controversial three-part series filmed in Lebanon, Gaza, Israel, Egypt, and Bosnia, Robert Fisk—award-winning Middle East and Balkans correspondent for the London Independent—reports on Muslim unrest as ideology, religion, history, and geography come into conflict. This Films for the Humanities production focuses its capable eye on Lebanon's guerilla war that aims to liberate southern Lebanon from Israeli control. The scope of this tragic conflict is brought into sharp focus in this documentary through the use of extensive interviews with participants from the Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad movements, views of civilian casualties caused by Israeli air attacks, and photographic evidence of the ongoing destruction of life and property in the region. The viewer should be advised that this video contains some disturbing scenes of this conflict."

Thanks BB. I had missed that. I am so glad to know of it. I saw his retirement interview a few times. He says he "failed"... "there is still war'.

Talking lesson of peace lecture

The path to peace in the Middle East will come through talks not the thunder of warfare, an audience in Londonderry has been told.

The comments came from journalist and Middle East analyst Robert Fisk, who delivered the first of the Tip O'Neill Peace Lectures at the Magee campus.

Mr Fisk said justice must be "the kernel of any lasting peace, not the vested interests of super powers, their satellite allies or fundamentalist enemies".

"What has got to happen is that we have to deal with the issue of justice," he said.

"Unless we deal with the issue of justice for everybody in the Middle East, there will not be a peace. And as long as we go on thinking that we can solve Iraq and solve Afghanistan by sending in more and more soldiers, we will lose."

Mr Fisk was invited to deliver the lecture by Professor John Hume, Nobel Laureate and holder of the university's Tip O'Neill Chair in Peace Studies.

Tip O'Neill was Speaker of the US House of Representatives during 1977-1987 and an enthusiastic supporter of peace efforts in Northern Ireland. The Chair is funded by the Ireland Funds. ..."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/foyle_and_west...

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on page two it talks about "global Phoenix program,"

so that is a memory lane

Body Count Was Their Most Important Product
By MORLEY SAFER; Morley Safer is a co-editor of ''60 Minutes'' and the author of ''Flashbacks: On Returning to Vietnam.''
Published: Sunday, October 21, 1990

Woodward book reveals extra-judicial killings in Iraq
by Tom Hayden, SF Chronicle,
Monday, September 15, 2008

The silence so far toward Bob Woodward's reporting of secret extra-judicial killings by American forces in Iraq shows a worrisome collapse of public debate about the war. ..."
http://www.uslaboragainstwar.org/article.php?id=17046

back to article,

"3. What Happened on the Dark Side in Iraq ...
4. The Long War Moves from Iraq to Afghanistan and Pakistan...
The US will demand that Pakistan's armed forces fight the Taliban, which the American military has driven into Pakistan. ..."

So it looks like our long term strategy is to chase Taliban into China and that should bring on the Revelations version... how does that go? what animal is China? Russia is the Bear. Russia is good with Iran.
Almost to Pipelinestan. But is someone there already?

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Understanding the Long War
By Tom Hayden

May 7, 2009

Editor's Note: This is first of a two-part essay.

The concept of the "Long War" is attributed to former CENTCOM Commander Gen. John Abizaid, speaking in 2004. Leading counterinsurgency theorist John Nagl, an Iraq combat veteran and now the head of the Center for a New American Security, writes that "there is a growing realization that the most likely conflicts of the next fifty years will be irregular warfare in an 'Arc of Instability' that encompasses much of the greater Middle East and parts of Africa and Central and South Asia." The Pentagon's official Quadrennial Defense Review (2005) commits the United States to a greater emphasis on fighting terrorism and insurgencies in this "arc of instability." The Center for American Progress repeats the formulation in arguing for a troop escalation and ten-year commitment in Afghanistan, saying that the "infrastructure of jihad" must be destroyed in "the center of an 'arc of instability' through South and Central Asia and the greater Middle East." ...

"I propose to begin by examining the military doctrines that give rise to notions of the Long War. The peace movement often adopts the biblical commitment to "study war no more," but in this case it may prove useful to become students of military strategies and tactics. (Those wishing to become students of Long War theory should consult the bibliography at the end of this essay.)

1. The New Counterinsurgency Is a Return to the Indian Wars.

In a September 24, 2007 article in The Nation, "The New Counterinsurgency," I wrote that the Petraeus plan for Iraq was as old as our nation's long Indian wars. That thesis was confirmed in the writings of the neo-conservative Robert Kaplan, in his September 21, 2004, article in the Wall Street Journal, "Indian Country."

Kaplan is obsessed with the anarchy loosed on the world by post-colonial, tribal-based societies, and emphasizes the need for small wars carried on "off camera," so to speak. Kaplan approvingly quotes one US officer as opining that "you want to whack bad guys quietly and cover your tracks with humanitarian aid projects." The comparison Kaplan makes between today's Long War and our previous Indian wars is that the "enemies" were highly decentralized tribal nations who had to be defeated in one campaign after another. He realizes that conventional war against the Plains and western tribes was an unsustainable strategy and that the native people were overwhelmed by an inexhaustible supply of white settlers and superior technology like the railroad. Fighting the new Indian wars today, he advises, means "the smaller the American footprint and the less notice it draws from the international media, the more effective is the operation." In this sense, Iraq is a strategic setback for Kaplan, "a mess that no one wants to repeat."

2. Strategic Military Framework: The Fifty-Year Long War.

Like the Indian wars, winning the Long War will require taking advantage of the deep divisions that exist in tribal societies, along lines of religion, ethnicity, race and geography. The efforts of many Indian leaders to form effective confederations against US expansion never succeeded...." Senator Tom Hayden

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090525/hayden?rel=hp_currently

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Robert Fisk: Civilians pay price of war from above

Thursday, 7 May 2009

"Of course there will be an inquiry. And in the meantime, we shall be told that all the dead Afghan civilians were being used as "human shields" by the Taliban and we shall say that we "deeply regret" innocent lives that were lost. But we shall say that it's all the fault of the terrorists, not our heroic pilots and the US Marine special forces who were target spotting around Bala Baluk and Ganjabad.

When the Americans destroy Iraqi homes, there is an inquiry. And oh how the Israelis love inquiries (though they rarely reveal anything). It's the history of the modern Middle East. We are always right and when we are not, we (sometimes) apologise and then we blame it all on the "terrorists". Yes, we know the throat-cutters and beheaders and suicide bombers are quite prepared to slaughter the innocent.

But it was a sign of just how terrible the Afghan slaughter was that the powerless President Hamid Karzai sounded like a beacon of goodness yesterday appealing for "a higher platform of morality" in waging war, that we should conduct war as "better human beings".

And of course, the reason is quite simple. We live, they die. We don't risk our brave lads on the ground – not for civilians. Not for anything. Fire phosphorus shells into Fallujah. Fire tank shells into Najaf. We know we kill the innocent. Israel does exactly the same. It said the same after its allies massacred 1,700 at the refugee camps of Sabra and Chatila in 1982 and in the deaths of more than a thousand civilians in Lebanon in 2006 and after the death of more than a thousand Palestinians in Gaza this year.

And if we kill some gunmen at the same time – "terrorists", of course – then it is the same old "human shield" tactic and ultimately the "terrorists" are to blame. Our military tactics are now fully aligned with Israel.

The reality is that international law forbids armies from shooting wildly in crowded tenements and bombing wildly into villages – even when enemy forces are present – but that went by the board in our 1991 bombing of Iraq and in Bosnia and in Nato's Serbia war and in our 2001 Afghan adventure and in 2003 in Iraq. Let's have that inquiry. And "human shields". And terror, terror, terror. Something else I notice. Innocent or "terrorists", civilians or Taliban, always it is the Muslims who are to blame."
Related articles

* Afghan massacre overshadows US talks
* '120 die' as US bombs village
* Leading article: Air strikes will not bring stability to Afghanistan
* Letters: Aid for Afghanistan

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-civilians-pay-price-of--war-from-above-1680408.html

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Show GAZA on the news for a change. You see mountains of rubble and families sitting on the rubble of their homes and praying on the collapsed roof of their mosques. and all the people who's bodies were charred, and only having torsos left still survive but how can one live in rubble and crawl effectively to get food or water?

ITRAEL is a demon and so are idiots who support such causes of death and then lie to promote it.

how hateful is that? It is beyond hate it is the practice of evil to gain power the devil grants to those obedient to Satan.

Israeli army used flechettes against Gaza civilians

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Apart from white phosphorus, the Israeli army used a variety of other weapons in densely populated civilian areas of Gaza in the three-week conflict that began on 27 December.

Flechettes are 4cm long metal darts that are sharply pointed at the front, with four fins at the rear. Between 5,000 and 8,000 are packed into 120mm shells which are generally fired from tanks. The shells explode in the air and scatter the flechettes in a conical pattern over an area about 300m wide and 100m long.

An anti-personnel weapon designed to penetrate dense vegetation, flechettes should never be used in built-up civilian areas. The Israeli army has used them in Gaza periodically for several years. In most cases their use has resulted in civilians being killed or injured.

Amnesty International's fact-finding team in Gaza first heard about the use of flechettes in the most recent conflict some ten days ago. The father of one of the victims showed the team a flechette which had been taken out of his son's body.

In its latest post on Amnesty International's Livewire blog, the team described how on Monday it visited towns and villages around Gaza and found more hard evidence of the use of flechettes.

In 'Izbat Beit Hanoun, to the south-west of the town of Beit Hanoun, several flechette shells were fired into the main road, killing two people and injuring several others on the morning of 5 January.

Wafa' Nabil Abu Jarad, a 21-year-old pregnant mother of two, was one of those killed. Her husband and her mother-in-law told the team that the family had just had breakfast and were outside the house drinking tea in the sun.

Wafa' and her husband were standing by the corner of the house when they heard a noise, followed by screams. They turned to go back into their house but at that moment Wafa' and several other members of the family were hit by flechettes. Wafa’ was killed outright.

That same day, at the other end of the street, 16-year-old Islam Jaber Abd-al-Dayem was struck in the neck by a flechette. He was taken to the hospital's intensive care unit but died three days later. Mizar, his brother, was injured in the same attack and still has a flechette lodged in his back.

In the village of al-Mughraqa on the morning of 7 January, a shell struck the room where Atta Hassan Aref Azzam was sitting with two of his children, Mohammed, aged 13 and Hassan, aged two and a half. All three were killed. The six other members of the family who were in the house fled to the nearest school for shelter. The team examined the bloodstained wall by which the three were killed. It was full of flechettes.

Source; Amnesty International
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fda_1233685962

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Last night I saw a guy watching the news at work. It was about Gaza and well no. It was about ITrael and they were showing a rocket shell from Gaza.. and the man was saying "Its got to be hard to face 8,000 rockets fired over three years".

I looked at him. I said, "they left off the part where they bomb Gaza" and all they do there. but you now. I don't want to confront him, just taking a break. I confront the farce of our news sources. ALL ARE FAKE., that has created a stupid people... US.

I mean here is news.. pretend news, that shows only a an empty shell of a rocket, no damage by the rocket to show, no burned out building to show, nowt even a death to show.. only the empty shell and the lore of 8,000 rockets over three years.. Whata load of crap that is!

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The only reason to slaughter people of Gaza they way we killed off the Indians is...? I don't have a reason that I know.. I don't know why Itrael must kill so much. I can only imagine it is to fulfill some ancient text that they believe in that excludes others to the point of slaughter. I cannot be shocked or saddened. Its so old and so blatant and so repeated, decades old... Why do the Jews lie?

I cannot even blame Itrael anymore because Jews don't care either. I don't understand why you don't care.. I learn. It sinks in,, the blood and the babies you shot in the head... I understand I am lucky you allow me to live at all. It never finds a settling place though.. It always is disturbing to know this about you. Kill and lie kill and lie steal.. its is true.. all the bank stuff.. its is true isn't it? All those things you call as antisemitism is just a plain and real definition of a jew... you, the silent one who approves killing of Palestine.

You make your reputation. Not me. You do this not me. you hate not me. Your influence is so far reaching that your hatred of Palestine has caused hatred of muslims anywhere.. and that is why I cannot write on Pinecam anymore. Not because I hate but because my neighbors have learned to hate me for my lack of boot licking.They think adoration of Itrael is patriotic.. I live in America and I adore my nation, not a Zionist state.
and that still bums me out..... But I am glad to be me and not a hater like you. I realize my very existence is a bother to you. I am very glad to not be you .. I am glad I am not be a JEW.. I am glad I have learned a way that is not a trap or a sin or a slaughter in arrogance and lust in a lie.

Why do you lie? Why do you lie? Why do you lie?

You think you don't lie... How many times have you heard reference to the USS Liberty or the USS Cole? Why are those known Itraeli attacks always cited? The are not even real Arab attacks? If you want to diss the Arabs,, why not repeatedly cite a thing that they actually did, like Lackerby?

Why do you always site your own work when you list the claims you have against Arabs... or is it Muslims? both? all non Jews? do hate all of mankind just some more than others?

I know you did Mumbai,, even with the ISI and the CIA.. I know dead babies makes you feel safe.. like garlic for a vampire. I don't understand your love hate relationship you seem to have with god.. one day you know he is there but everyday you say you are more important than anything god ever did.. .so important you would even kill god... and to some people you did ... To me you just did not want to give up your wicked way then or now. To me you killed a great messenger who would have been revered if he were farther east.
You forget, The Muslims are not so far from who you were as followers of Abraham. You cannot hoard god either.

What make Judaism a religion anyway? I have seen Christians and Muslims and Mormons and even Masons explain their beliefs.. and I have heard nothing from a Jew but the interest rate clause in the fine print. Usury is our monetary system. You support each other while robbing us blind. You have amazing inspiring community support networks... like its all kickback to go along with slaughter. How many of those Jews in settlements with in Palestine are paid to live there with those lovely homes provided by Beers and Lehars and the Ponsey scheme of Madoff?

Who are you? Why do you hate me? Why do you need blood of babies?

Why do you bother with the Sabbath if you despise all of creation?

When will you join the human race?

"Exterminate all the Brutes": Gaza 2009

January 20, 2009 By Noam Chomsky

On Saturday December 27, the latest US-Israeli attack on helpless Palestinians was launched. The attack had been meticulously planned, for over 6 months according to the Israeli press. The planning had two components: military and propaganda. It was based on the lessons of Israel's 2006 invasion of Lebanon, which was considered to be poorly planned and badly advertised. We may, therefore, be fairly confident that most of what has been done and said was pre-planned and intended.

That surely includes the timing of the assault: shortly before noon, when children were returning from school and crowds were milling in the streets of densely populated Gaza City. It took only a few minutes to kill over 225 people and wound 700, an auspicious opening to the mass slaughter of defenseless civilians trapped in a tiny cage with nowhere to flee.

In his retrospective "Parsing Gains of Gaza War," New York Times correspondent Ethan Bronner cited this achievement as one of the most significant of the gains. Israel calculated that it would be advantageous to appear to "go crazy," causing vastly disproportionate terror, a doctrine that traces back to the 1950s. "The Palestinians in Gaza got the message on the first day," Bronner wrote, "when Israeli warplanes struck numerous targets simultaneously in the middle of a Saturday morning. Some 200 were killed instantly, shocking Hamas and indeed all of Gaza." The tactic of "going crazy" appears to have been successful, Bronner concluded: there are "limited indications that the people of Gaza felt such pain from this war that they will seek to rein in Hamas," the elected government. That is another long-standing doctrine of state terror. I don't, incidentally, recall the Times retrospective "Parsing Gains of Chechnya War," though the gains were great.

The meticulous planning also presumably included the termination of the assault, carefully timed to be just before the inauguration, so as to minimize the (remote) threat that Obama might have to say some words critical of these vicious US-supported crimes.

Two weeks after the Sabbath opening of the assault, with much of Gaza already pounded to rubble and the death toll approaching 1000, the UN Agency UNRWA, on which most Gazans depend for survival, announced that the Israeli military refused to allow aid shipments to Gaza, saying that the crossings were closed for the Sabbath. To honor the holy day, Palestinians at the edge of survival must be denied food and medicine, while hundreds can be slaughtered by US jet bombers and helicopters." ......

of note...
"Palestinian-American journalist Ali Abunimah observed that "There are no rockets launched at Israel from the
West Bank, and yet Israel's extrajudicial killings, land theft, settler pogroms and kidnappings never stopped for a day during the truce. The western-backed Palestinian Authority of Mahmoud Abbas has acceded to all Israel's demands. Under the proud eye of United States military advisors, Abbas has assembled `security forces' to fight the resistance on Israel's behalf. None of that has spared a single Palestinian in the West Bank from Israel's relentless colonization" - thanks to firm US backing." ...

and...

"I will not once again run through the inglorious record, but it is important to be aware that US-Israeli rejectionism today is even more blatant than in the past. The Arab League has gone even beyond the consensus, calling for full normalization of relations with Israel. Hamas has repeatedly called for a two-state settlement in terms of the international consensus. Iran and Hezbollah have made it clear that they will abide by any agreement that Palestinians accept. That leaves the US-Israel in splendid isolation, not only in words."

and ...

"One of the wisest voices in Israel, Uri Avnery, writes that after an Israeli military victory, "What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints. This will have severe consequences for our long-term future, our standing in the world, our chance of achieving peace and quiet. In the end, this war is a crime against ourselves too, a crime against the State of Israel."

and...

There is good reason to believe that he is right. Israel is deliberately turning itself into perhaps the most hated country in the world, and is also losing the allegiance of the population of the West, including younger American Jews, who are unlikely to tolerate its persistent shocking crimes for long. Decades ago, I wrote that those who call themselves "supporters of Israel" are in reality supporters of its moral degeneration and probable ultimate destruction. Regrettably, that judgment looks more and more plausible.

Meanwhile we are quietly observing a rare event in history, what the late Israeli sociologist Baruch Kimmerling called "politicide," the murder of a nation -- at our hands."

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How many of our government have proudly proclaimed themselves "Zionist" Even Biden said, "You don't have be a Jew to be a Zionist"

What are we doing with half of our government being dual citizens of Itrael?

http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/20316

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A Pinecamer said, "its nto one the news



I am sure many are pleased by this.. so be happy.

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There is no such thing as a Palestinian Terrorist..there is only IGNORANT AMERICA.

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Israeli Attack Injures 1.5 Million Gazans

"This week the death toll in Gaza passed the 1,000 mark, after nearly three weeks of Israeli air and ground attacks. But surprisingly, no one has reported an even more appalling statistic: that there are some 1.5 million injured Palestinians in Gaza.

"How is is possible that such an astounding figure could have passed the world’s media by?"

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From Beirut to Bosnia - PART 2 - The Road To Palestine - by Robert Fisk - 50:36 - Sep 19, 2007